tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4877168000179938657.post4544805055821946769..comments2023-11-05T01:11:21.340-08:00Comments on BioArt: Contemporary Art and the Life Sciences: Liver Cells - update and next class.J Willethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01247379774272573606noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4877168000179938657.post-9161411865875872742008-04-17T07:06:00.000-07:002008-04-17T07:06:00.000-07:00Hi all,last class was for me a new way to look at ...Hi all,<BR/>last class was for me a new way to look at life and "living materials". i think that to understand and try to give an answer to what is actually happening in labs nowadays, we should get really involved in the practises, in the procedures and only later generate our own idea about the ethics of it. Maybe for me what bioart does is representing science and the questions it generates using its same tools (i mean science's tools), but focusing not on the good outcome of the experiment...but on the awarness, feelings that we experience during the workshop. That's why I feel still confused, but I feel I need to know more of the subject.<BR/>That's just my point of view.<BR/>See u tomorrow,<BR/>lauralaura boffihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00192144933381731429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4877168000179938657.post-34803731881520221192008-04-17T06:55:00.000-07:002008-04-17T06:55:00.000-07:00Sorry for the deleted comment, it was exactly the ...Sorry for the deleted comment, <BR/>it was exactly the same with my <BR/>other post, couldn't find an <BR/>edit option after posting :(<BR/><BR/>apologies!<BR/>amaliaakallerghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02083432396421766832noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4877168000179938657.post-76586018375749552332008-04-17T06:31:00.000-07:002008-04-17T06:31:00.000-07:00Hello. I missed the deleted comment! I am sad. ...Hello. I missed the deleted comment! I am sad. I would like to know what you all think, even if we disagree!<BR/><BR/>In regards to the cage. We need to keep things relatively small - so that they can fit in the incubator - and we do not use too much agar. However, you could buy the cage - and save the receipt in case you have to return it!<BR/><BR/>I was thinking of having a BBQ at our outdoor lab. :)<BR/><BR/>Jennifer.J Willethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01247379774272573606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4877168000179938657.post-34200145013981684052008-04-17T03:39:00.000-07:002008-04-17T03:39:00.000-07:00what is the difference between a living animal and...what is the difference between a living animal and its living cells? is it not made of cells? what is an animal (or a human) exactly made of? isn't it a sort of reductionism? <BR/>mmmh I am still a bit confuse. <BR/>Anyway, as one of the objectors I would like to say that last lab was real strange because it seems to me really "surreal". it looks like working on a meal and not on a living being. it was not shocking at all.. barbeques at my house are more bloody. that allows us to have a clean conscience?<BR/>monicamonicahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00405396425323714834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4877168000179938657.post-13007952570603476582008-04-17T02:33:00.000-07:002008-04-17T02:33:00.000-07:00Another question on the vessels:How big can they a...Another question on the vessels:<BR/><BR/>How big can they actually be?<BR/>You see, I really really want to<BR/>bring a cage, but I'm not sure it<BR/>will do... (and wouldn't like to<BR/>buy it for nothing...)<BR/><BR/>So, what are the changes for<BR/>a (metal) cage filled with agar<BR/>and bacteria?<BR/><BR/>amaliaakallerghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02083432396421766832noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4877168000179938657.post-1412717849449838962008-04-17T02:31:00.000-07:002008-04-17T02:31:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.akallerghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02083432396421766832noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4877168000179938657.post-27787078245550127492008-04-16T03:58:00.000-07:002008-04-16T03:58:00.000-07:00Hi Eveleen.Good comment! Any other thoughts from ...Hi Eveleen.<BR/>Good comment! Any other thoughts from other class participants? fruitful? futile? cruel? food?<BR/><BR/>And, Porcelain would work just fine - also glass, metal, any thing that is microwave, oven, or dishwasher safe.<BR/><BR/>JJ Willethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01247379774272573606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4877168000179938657.post-33636425709261478532008-04-16T01:45:00.000-07:002008-04-16T01:45:00.000-07:00hi all,with regard to what we´ve been doing in tis...hi all,<BR/><BR/>with regard to what we´ve been doing in tissue culture class i was thinking: is it not strange to kill an animal in order to extract living cells and do everything you can to keep those cells alive?<BR/><BR/>does anyone have thoughts about this?<BR/><BR/>second, i´m not so sure what materials can hold in a heat oven - i was thinking porcelain because i know it´s baked in high temperatures. <BR/><BR/>see you later, cheers<BR/>EveleenEveleenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15653351733757946821noreply@blogger.com